SF Giants prospects position preview chat: Corner Infield
Around the Foghorn contributor, Wrenzie Regodon and co-site expert Marc Delucchi are beginning the season with some discussions about the SF Giants minor-league depth at each position. They discussed the organization’s catching depth last week and now are looking at the team’s corner infield prospects.
SF Giants prospects position preview chat: Third Base
Marc Delucchi: Alright, so getting into the infield forces us to have some conversations about who you classify as a corner infielder vs a middle infielder. Jimmy Glowenke and Will Wilson are two guys that come to mind who were drafted as shortstops but profile elsewhere. Do you think either of them has a future at the hot corner (third base), or are they going to stick up the middle?
Wrenzie Regodon: With Glowenke, I think he will stay up the middle, most likely playing second base as a pro. I say Glowenke is more of a second baseman because he does not have the range to play shortstop long-term, but also does not have the arm to play at the hot corner. With Wilson however, we have seen him getting reps everywhere in the infield in Spring Training and in the Instructs. I think Wilson has the chops to play third base at a solid level.
MD: Agreed. Glowenke’s arm was definitely fringe in college. If we group Wilson into this bunch, how do you rank the trio of potential long-term third baseman: Casey Schmitt, Luis Toribio, and Wilson? All three have respectable prospect pedigrees, but none rank as elite prospects either.
WR: Honestly, it is a toss-up between the three in my opinion. Toribio has the loudest bat, Schmitt has the slickest defense by a good margin, while Wilson is somewhere in the middle. I am going to be honest here, I do not see Toribio sticking at third base because he has major issues defending the position, that is why the coaches had him play second base at Insructs.
Schmitt, in my opinion, can be the Evan Longoria replacement at the hot corner. He has more than enough arm strength, the soft glove, and the instincts to not worry about who is going to man the hot corner in the foreseeable future. I can see Wilson playing the position but I see him as more of a plug-and-play type defender in the infield where he is comfortable moving between third, second, and short.
Ranking the three, Wilson, Toribio, and Schmitt might be the ranking for now but I can definitely see Schmitt on top of the trio by the end of the year.
M: Yeah they are all really close together. I’m most bullish on Toribio because of his great approach, I know he has the arm strength to handle third, and I think he can ultimately improve his glove enough to be a 45-grade defender.
There’s definitely a case for all three being the future starter though. Which one do you think is the first to reach the big leagues? Toribio is the youngest but also gets rave reviews for his plate approach and makeup. Schmitt is the most refined defensively, but probably the least-developed bat. Wilson seems like the obvious answer, especially since he saw so much time at spring training, but I’m curious if you lean in a different direction.
W: I lean towards Wilson as well. When I looked at Wilson’s progress throughout Spring Training, I thought that he had a chance to be in the big leagues sometime this year because of how refined he looked. It is not exciting but he played like he belonged. I would not be surprised if they throw Wilson to Eugene or even at Richmond if they are aggressive (although I doubt it).
With Toribio, I think that no matter where he plays, his bat is just going to carry him through the minors. His intangibles are also excellent, but I am obviously on the low side of his defense. I just see time and time again that he struggles to set his feet and have a balanced platform while throwing. Most of his errors come from inaccurate throws. I mean it’s fixable but with potentially how quick his bat can move him up the ladder, he might not have time to refine it in time before the organization has to find a place for him to play.
About Schmitt, I think that his bat has potential as well now that he is focusing on hitting full-time. His peripherals in college were strong, it’s just that he struggled to reach his power potential in games. I think Schmitt’s going to break out this year.
M: So let’s do the over/under for future everyday starters again. For third base, I’ll set it at 2.5, what do you think?
W: I’ll probably head towards the under on that one. Schmitt and Wilson are the two main guys that I see locking down the position. Other than them, I kind of struggle to think there are going to other mainstays at the position. If you want to count Luciano, sure, but he is a shortstop at the moment and the player development team will do everything they can to have him stay there.
M: Lol, we have to disagree at some point. I pretty much completely agree. I think all three of Schmitt, Wilson, and Toribio have a good shot to be everyday players, but all three have substantial bench/platoon bat traits as well.
W: I mean we can’t be just shaking hands all the time lol.
M: Haha exactly.
Anyone else you think could factor into that position down the line? Diego Velasquez, recent IFA signing, seems like one who could be in this conversation in a year, but outside of him, that seems like it.
W: We have yet to see Velasquez because he just got signed. I tried all the avenues when I made my Primer, but Velasquez’s defense is something that I am still unsure about. I guess we’ll know about it when they play in the DSL.
I think one guy that can be a potential third baseman down the line is Anthony Rodriguez, one of the top signees in the 2019 IFA cycle. He plays shortstop now, but on the videos that I have seen of him, he looks like a candidate to move to the hot corner because there are other prospects in his class that have better athleticism, range, and instincts to play there, like Aeverson Arteaga. Still too early to say, though but something to keep tabs on.
M: How do you view Sean Roby? He’s mostly played third base so far, but I think he’s headed to first or even DH down the line.
W: Roby had an exciting spring last year before the pandemic. I think Roby can play third base in the minors. I think he is athletic enough and has a strong arm to play the position. But I kind of agree with you that he will likely be a 1B, corner OF, or a DH down the line when he has that power stroke working. He kind of reminds me of a more athletic Darin Ruf.
SF Giants prospects position preview chat: First Base
M: Ooo, I like that Ruf comp for Roby. First base is one of the thinner positions in the system, which isn’t too big of a deal since so many current outfielders or third baseman could end up there. Logan Wyatt and Connor Cannon are the first basemen who stand out to me.
W: Those two are the ones who stand out to me as well although I will add Garrett Frechette into the mix. I think he is kind of floating under the radar because there were no games last year. But Frechette could potentially make noise in 2021.
He looked better than ever during the quarantine. His power potential is still in question, but there is no doubt in my mind that he can hit. We know he has the power potential to be a legitimate threat (he hit balls into the water at Oracle in his pre-draft workout) but the onus is on the coaches to help him tap into it more often.
M: Yeah, Roger Munter has been talking up Frechette all offseason, but I think he might be able to stick in left field. Cannon has a lot of questions, both his contact ability and injury track record, but his 80-grade power is just too enticing for me to ignore. On the Wyatt front, he’s easily the best first-base prospect in the organization, but he’s quite unique. He’s yet to hit for big-time power, has elite discipline, and should be great defensively at first, but it’s not the standard profile fans expect. Does that concern you?
W: Oh yeah. With regards to Cannon, we have yet to see him in full-season ball so it’s pretty interesting that the Giants nabbed a guy with that loud of a tool in Day 3 of any draft. I hope he stays healthy and if his performance in rookie ball continues this year, he can make some end-season top 30 lists.
About Wyatt, I am concerned because there have been too many recent players with similar profiles that became busts. Pavin Smith, Matt Thaiss, and Will Craig were all hit-over-power, walk-oriented first baseman who just fizzled out when they tried to learn to hit for power. Based on what I saw on Wyatt in his ABs in ST, I do not think hitting for power is a priority for him. He lets his hands guide the bat to the zone and tries to pepper balls over the field.
M: Yeah, Evan White is another one of those guys. Although, I don’t know if I’m fully out on him and Smith just yet. Anyway, we’ve already said a decent amount, any other corner infielders you want to highlight?
W: White though has a lot of other things to offer, like speed. Oh man, I was so disappointed when the Mariners drafted him a couple of picks before the Giants in 2017. We got Heliot though, so that worked out.
There are a couple of other players that I want to mention. I think Jacob Gonzalez made huge strides in 2019 in terms of his offensive production with his revamped swing and approach. It is disappointing that we did not see him continue to perform last year but he is a guy that was once a second-round pick and is still relatively young.
Lastly, even though he is not a top prospect, I’m excited to watch David Villar again. I think he has the defensive capabilities to stick at third in the bigs and hit for power but he has obvious contact issues and high strikeout numbers.
M: Interesting, it would be really cool to see Gonzalez rekindle his prospect stock. He was in his age 20-21 season in 2019, and he struck out in just 15.9% of his plate appearances at Augusta. There’s definitely some intriguing upside if he can start tapping into his power potential more.
W: Yeah. He’s showed great progress. He’s walked more, struck out less, showed more power, a more balanced and consistent swing. Just everything that you hoped for Gonzalez except for his defense happened in 2019. I think he will still have some growing pains and his development will likely be a bit slow, but there’s a shot that he will be a big leaguer in his mid-to-late 20s.
M: Awesome. Great chat! I can’t wait to talk to you next weekend about the org’s middle infielders.
W: I had a great time as well! I also can’t wait to talk about the middle infield because it is a DEEP group. I hope it won’t get really long haha
Stay tuned to Around the Foghorn for plenty more SF Giants prospects coverage. Next week, Wrenzie and Marc will be back with another discussion, this time diving into the Giants middle infielders.