July 6, 2013; San Francisco, CA, USA; Los Angeles Dodgers right fielder Yasiel Puig (66) walks back to the dugout after striking out against the San Francisco Giants during the first inning at AT&T Park. Mandatory Credit: ©Kyle Terada-USA TODAY Sports

Hit Yasiel Puig? Why I Say The Giants Should Make Him Pay


Yesterday my co-editor, Stuart, did a post about why the Giants shouldn’t go after Yasiel Puig in retaliation for his single hitting bat-flipping, field celebrating, trash-talking, and down right obnoxious behavior on the field. His argument was that Giants fans are calling for it, but that behavior needs to stop and any retaliation could put our beloved Buster Posey in harm’s way.

Well, friends, I’m not a good a sportsman as Stuart and I definitely subscribe to the school of the unwritten baseball rules. Beaning unruly batters is part of those rules. I say the Giants should retaliate against Puig with a nice fast ball to the gut, arm, leg, or anywhere below the shoulders. I do not condone head shots, however.

I would even go as far to argue that this kind of rivalry that is happening between the Giants and the Dodgers right now is good for baseball. I mean, if I wanted to watch perfect gentlemen playing baseball, shaking hands, and helping each other up on the field, I’d go watch a little league game where they don’t keep score. You would, too. If there is not a team that just gets under your skin, well, you simply are not a real baseball fan. I’m not saying you have to want people to get hit to be a real baseball fan. I would never say that, but you do need to appreciate and have respect for the on-field rivalries. Off the field is a completely different story.

That said, I do think the Giants should retaliate against Puig. I don’t think they should injure him by any means, but a sore arm will do the trick. Here’s why I feel this way. Puig is a kid. He’s cocky, obnoxious, and plays like the Golden Boy that all of MLB (sans the Giants) thinks he is. If they Giants don’t bean him, another team most certainly will. He defies the unwritten rules of playing baseball, especially in another team’s park. I mean, he flipped his bat because he hit a single. That’s like celebrating for passing English 101 in college. It’s what you’re supposed to do as a ball player, hit the ball.

Last year, Cole Hamels sent a “Welcome to the Big Leagues” pitch to Bryce Harper. Hamels got suspended for being dumb enough to admit it, but you do have to appreciate his courage for speaking up for “old baseball.” Here’s what he had to say,

“I was trying to hit him,” Hamels said. “I mean, I’m not going to deny it. It’s something that I grew up watching. I’m just trying to continue old baseball, because I think some people get away from it. I remember when I was a rookie, the strike zone was really, really small and you didn’t say anything because that’s the way baseball is. But I think unfortunately sometimes the league is protecting certain players and making it not as that kind of old school, prestigious way of baseball.” via Sports Illustrated

Don’t get me wrong. I love Bryce Harper. He’s fun to watch. I’d also imagine if you aren’t a Giant fan, Yasiel Puig is also fun to watch. But we’re Giants fans, and Puig needs to be put in his place. He needs to take a few lessons from Matt Kemp and Clayton Kershaw, who you rarely see making much of a spectacle anymore, though Kemp did have a bit of a celebration after catching a fly ball to end the game when we played in LA. I’m not saying Giants don’t do it also, just not as much. Sure, Sergio Romo was chirping right along with Puig and Hanley Ramirez, but he saves his celebrating for when a game is over. Chirping is completely different from bat flipping and blowing kisses in the middle of a game.

So, go for it Giants. Give him a shot to the gut and remind him that he still has a lot to learn about playing in the Majors. He’s not always going to be the Golden Boy and the Giants need to start him off right. In fact, Puig should take getting hit as a sign of respect from the Giants. He only gets under our skin because he’s good. If he was hitting .200 there would be no need to hit him.

As for the fear of someone like Posey getting hit back by the Dodgers, I think there isn’t much chance of that happening. Posey can take a hit, and if he does get it, so be it. It’s unlikely the Dodgers would seriously injure him, partly because he’s a pretty classy guy and I can imagine the Dodger players have a lot of respect for how he plays the game. Who doesn’t? I mean, he hit a home run in Game 4 of the World Series last year and didn’t feel the need to flip his bat. The most emotion you’ll see out of him is when he throws someone out at 2B. So fans, don’t worry about Buster, he’ll be fine, and if an on-field brawl takes place, I’m pretty sure you won’t he him in the middle of it.

That said, if Sergio Romo ever comes to the plate to bat against the Dodgers, he may have a few things to worry about.

Agree? Disagree? Let’s hear about it in the comments!

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  • Stacie Wheeler

    Melissa, first of all Puig already was beaned by Ian Kennedy in the FACE. I really don’t think Puig does his bat flip in a show off response but it’s more of his style and routine since he bat flips after just about anything he hits. After Romo’s mocking “I See You” gesture after game 2, I think Puig’s bat flip after his single evens things out. After watching the Dodgers engage in two epic brawls this season, I’m over it. Let’s take out aggression on the diamond instead.

    • Melissa Felkins

      Well, he shouldn’t have been hit in the Face. I definitely don’t condone that, but I do think that hitting batters from time to time is part of the game, and shouldn’t be discouraged by fans.

      On field brawls are an entirely different thing, and you guys had some bad experience with that this season, obviously. But it doesn’t change the fact that Giants fans see Puig as a punk and he needs to be knocked back a couple of notches.

      I just don’t see hitting batters as a big problem in the game and think it’s a tactic that should be used, cautiously, but not abused.

      And well, I also like to disagree with Stuart just for the fun of conversation :)

      • LasordasLair

        I seem to remember a certain Giant slugger years ago who used to do bat flips after every home run he hit, and watching his home runs while wearing his plate of armour.
        It’s nothing personal. He’s just a young 22 year old player who plays with an aggressive style. It’s nothing directed at the Giants specifically. Hanley has been doing his I see you glasses thing BEFORE he was with the Dodgers. Again it’s nothing personal.
        You guys are far too sensitive. Did winning those world series give you Giant fans a chip on their shoulders or something? You lost fair and square. Deal with it, move on. I have no problem with inside pitching or a little chin music, it;s part of Baseball, just don’t do it if you can’t NOT hit someone in the head. No head hunting. That’s all I ask.

        • Melissa Felkins

          I clearly advocated AGAINST head hunting.

          Bat flippers deserve to get hit, Giants or not.

          • LasordasLair

            I’m just curious why you complain about Puig’s bat flips when Barry Bonds did bat flips like every night for years. Right???

          • Melissa Felkins

            well, Barry Bonds earned the right to flip his bat. He wasn’t a rookie with 1 month in the Bigs.

          • LasordasLair

            Ok, but Puig isn’t doing it on purpose though, Bonds did it on purpose. Puig’s just a 22 year old youngster with incredible talent who does beautiful things on the diamond. He’s got a lot to learn about the game yes, but he’s not doing it on purpose, so take that into consideration. Eventually he will learn how to dial it back a bit, but for now, he’s just having fun. Everyone wanted to hit Bonds for it, and I mean everyone. But the Dodgers instead just sent in Jesse Orosco to pitch to him. Instead of talking about hitting him, the Giants should instead be focusing on ways to get him out.

          • Melissa Felkins

            I don’t believe for one second that Puig isn’t doing it on purpose. If that was his only antic, it may be plausible, but it’s not. The Giants will figure out how to get him out. Pretty sure we actually already half way there, Romo especially.

            Puig just needs to show more respect for the game, and the veteran players he’s on the field with.

          • LasordasLair

            Well he bat flips everyone, so it’s not specifically directed at the Giants. But it really its just his style. Maybe it’s a bit flashy, but hey again, he’s very young. Believe me if it was something specifically targeted at the Giants, we would be all over covering it and pointing it out and using the content to make fun of the Giants as much as we possibly could. Unfortunately we can’t because it really is just his style.
            If I remember correctly, he did get a hit off of Romo in the ninth right?

          • Melissa Felkins

            Yeah, he did get a hit, but got embarrassed the night before.

            I never said it was targeted at the Giants. If it was, it might make it slightly better. It only further serves my point that he’s a punk that needs to be put in his place. His “style” as you call it is arrogant. Just like Uribe’s “jazz hands,” but at least he saves that for an actual home run, and not a run of the mill single.

          • LasordasLair

            I admit the kisses are a bit much, but mistakes were made on both sides. But Punk? Come now. Impetuous yes, but punk? No. You know you miss Uribe’s jazz hands. admit it.

          • Melissa Felkins

            I stand by punk.

            As for missing Uribe? Not a chance after the terrible couple of seasons he had before this season. Even with his production this year, I don’t miss him. I’m pretty sure Tim Lincecum has made that clear a few times.

          • LasordasLair

            The past is the past. You know you and Lincecum love Uribe. Within the deep labrynths of your minds you do.

          • Melissa Felkins

            Brandon Crawford > Juan Uribe

            Pablo Sandoval > Juan Uribe (like, literally bigger than him)

          • LasordasLair

            Sandoval is a large man, I agree with you there. .

          • Melissa Felkins

            Finally. Something we can agree on. Panda’s largeness.

          • Daniel Aragues

            Melissa you’re a homer, and your Giants will always be the “good guys” but you’re also in denial. Romo showed no class when he blew off the local media after Sunday’s loss to the Dodgers. He can dish it out when he wins, but not when he loses…even Marty Lurie of KNBR agreed.

          • Melissa Felkins

            Romo shouldn’t have blown off the media, but he was emotional and clearly frustrated. It was a bad move on his part, and I’ll fully agree with that.

            I also like to play devil’s advocate, so there is that…

          • Daniel Aragues

            Melissa, you’re showing some objectivity which is a delight. Keep it up! ;-)

          • Melissa Felkins

            Objectivity and delight? Ugh, I better start working on a new article in which we break Kemp…oh wait, he can do that all by himself ;-)

          • LasordasLair

            Ouch Rimshot. I guess no more broken than Lincecum is right? ;)

          • Melissa Felkins

            Broken would indicate it’s fixable. Sadly, I don’t know that Big Time Timmy Jim is fixable :/

          • Daniel Aragues

            Did the Giants win, again? Throwing at Puig; breaking Kemp!?! Maybe that’s the only hits the Giants can get…

          • Melissa Felkins

            Hey! We can get hits…just not when anyone is on the base paths!

            And in case you think any of this banter is serious, please realize I was simply stating a counterpoint to my co-editor. It’s all in good fun.

          • Daniel Aragues

            I like bantering with you. Nothing serious; all in good fun…I’m not going to take you out, break you or make you pay. I ‘m just going to show you the light! ;-)

          • Melissa Felkins

            Okay, just making sure! In that case, I’m claiming credit for Matt Kemp going on the DL yesterday.

          • Daniel Aragues

            Ok, and the Dodgers will take credit for keeping the Giants in the race by beating the Dbacks while the Giants were floundering once again.

          • LasordasLair

            The Coors Field wall takes most of the credit for that Melissa. That wall is a misgiving little you know what.

          • Melissa Felkins

            Yep, I know! I’ll let the wall have credit for “breaking” him, but I still take credit for him going to the DL :)

          • LasordasLair

            I kind of think Romo is a bit of a punk though.

          • Melissa Felkins

            As for Romo’s excitement, he does his after the final out. All of that is fair game. Puig did his little blowing kisses during the game after he scored. Game ain’t over til the bottom of the 9th.

          • sten swarty

            Bonds is just a person who got caught juicing like crazy when he broke a long standing MLB record. Everyone probably juiced, but he’s one of the few (which is turning into many) that was found using.

          • LasordasLair

            And he did a bat flip too.

          • Melissa Felkins

            Bonds never tested positive from an MLB test. The only evidence is a positive test from BALCO from before MLB implemented a testing program.

            I’m not saying he didn’t use by any means, but he was never “found” out.

  • Stuart Jones

    In a shocking statement, I respectfully disagree. Intentionally putting people in harm’s way, on-field brawls, not a fan.

    I did like (but disagreed with) the “real baseball fans” statement only because that’s something Andrew Baggarly would give the thumbs up to, and I know how much you love him.

    • Melissa Felkins

      I’m glad you enjoyed my “tribute” to Baggs :)

  • Al

    I can’t get mad bout this article. Hell! If it were happening to my Dodgers I’d be thinking the same thing. Just remember what goes around comes around.

  • sten swarty

    Parra can do his finger wave after throwing Puig out and it’s a joke, but Puig releases his anger after finally hitting an outside slider is a big deal? Puig simply finally hit that slider that has been destroying him and he flipped his bat basically saying “Gosh Dam I Finally Hit a Freaking Slider Away!!!”

    • Benjie Banzai

      “Gosh Dam I Finally Hit a Freaking Slider Away!!!” ~ That’s exactly it. He didn’t look up at the pitcher or point at anyone. From an opponents perspective, it’s irritating as all get up, I’ll give the giAnt fan’s that. To contrast, Romo made the “Eye See You!” gesture at the Dodger bench, more specifically at HanRam. That was definitely payback worthy and Posey didn’t get it the next day. Angel Pagan salutes when he makes a great defensive play or a timely hit. This could be construed as showboating as well. However, it’s just his way. Should he be targeted every time he salutes?

      One more thing on Posey. Class act. Too bad he has to wear those horrible togs. He still doesn’t know how to properly block the plate though.

  • Julio Echeverria

    Look, I love old school ball just as much as anybody. But saying that Posey is a classy player and that’s why he shouldn’t get hit in retaliation? He would get hit for the same reason Puig “could” get hit: best batter in the lineup, period. Bat flipping, kiss blowing, that’s all part of the game, especially in a rivalry like ours (obviously I think Blue). Sure, go for it, but expect Posey to get hit too. The interesting thing will be what happens after. If he does what he did the first time he got beaned (steal second, advance to third, score a run), I don;t think any pitcher will be hitting him too often.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Matthew-J-Bailey/1055197089 Matthew J Bailey

    Well, I have to admit it. The writer of this article is a true fan of the BALCO Giants: a whiny little b*tch.

  • Matt R. Contreras

    What a stupid write-up. This is just stupid. I;m a Giants fan also. Stupid. Play Baseball and shut up. Gosh.

  • Daniel Aragues

    Loved the Grand Slam, last night. Once again the Dodgers helped the Giants, beating the Dbacks to keep the Giants in the race while the Giants were wondering what to do next. They were heard uttering: “Gosh, I wonder if we will ever hit a #$%$&@ Grand Slam?!?

    • Melissa Felkins

      I’m sure the Dodgers have been wondering “Gosh, will we ever win a World Series again?”

      Appreciate you guys keeping us in the race though while we’re clearly on holiday. I also can’t wait for our new LF Tanaka to rob Mr. Puig of a home run like he did to the Mets last night. Maybe Puig can give him some bat flip pointers, too.

      • Daniel Aragues

        I believe you are mixed up. The Giants are the ones muttering “Gosh, will we ever win a World Series again or maybe even a game?” The LA Dodgers have won 5 World Series titles vs. 2 for the SF Giants. How did you like Ricky’s great pitching last night against the Dbacks? Too bad the Giants couldn’t get him. They got aced out by the Dodgers, again.

        • Melissa Felkins

          Most of your current players don’t even remember the Dodgers winning a WS. And we’ve won 7 to your 5. If you get to count the pre-move, we do too!

          • Daniel Aragues

            You’re rapidly losing your baseball credibility (if you ever had any). The Dodgers have won 6 overall WS titles. The current Dodger players have Vin Scully to remind them.

          • Melissa Felkins

            I don’t make a point to keep up with how many WS the Dodgers have won. It’s still less than us :)

            How old is Vin Scully now? 90?

            You know, you’re an okay guy, aside from the Dodger stuff. Maybe you want to come and write for ATF, you know, as our in-house Dodger expert/perspective…heh.

          • Daniel Aragues

            Thank you for the offer, but you write better than I do.

            Besides, I only do this when I get free time (break time from work).

            Still, the offer sounds enticing. It would let me express my opinion against the constant unfair abuse and discrimination against the Dodgers. (I don’t want to make light of the Civil Rights protests of the past, and there is no comparison.) But we’re talking Dodgers Civil Rights, here!

            And, the offer would mean I would have to be friends with you, and that would counter my desire to banter with you! ;-)

            90? You’re showing age discrimination…shame on you. Besides, 90 is the new 80, and in Vin’s case the new 70, maybe the new 60. He certainly hasn’t slowed down, and doesn’t show his age.

            Melissa, we are talking West Coast baseball, and the score is 5 to 2 re WS titles.

      • Daniel Aragues

        “LF Tanaka to rob Mr. Puig of a home run like he did to the Mets last night.” Is that the best you can do? How about concentrating on winning a game. You have a Puig complex. Maybe you should see a Giants doctor to cure your mental disorder.

        • Melissa Felkins

          I have seen a Dr, but they’re Giants fans too, so apparently I’m perfectly normal.

  • Daniel Aragues

    OK, I figured it out. You had a thing for Puig, but got rejected. Now you’re releasing your unrelenting public scorn on him. “Hell hath no fury like a woman’s scorn,” pretty much means if you make a woman (especially, a Giants fan) mad, she’ll make you suffer more than if you were in Hell; especially, if her team is constantly losing, and pretty much is going to call it quits for the year.

  • Daniel Aragues

    FLASH…BREAKING NEWS: Early responders were clearly speechless (and swept off their feet) when responding to questions re the sweeping disaster at AT&T park in San Francisco, today. “I don’t know if anyone was seriously hurt…all I could see was orange and black smoke!!”

  • Daniel Aragues

    Speaking of sweeps, the Dodgers swept the Dbacks, last night. It wasn’t easy, we had to tie it in the 9th after 2 outs, with things looking gloomy, and then finally winning it in the 14th with 2 home runs! This is bitter sweet because we are keeping the Giants in the race while they are in their coma/vacation/deep hibernation.

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